What don't you get

Their is a really terrible opinion piece in the guardian by simon price today on the oasis thing.

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Just read that. You can’t argue with a lot of it

He looks like he only ever listens to The Prodigy!

Talking of shit music… ahem

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Ouch!

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Thought it was terrible inverse snobbery of the worst kind.

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Yup. The ‘Butchers Apron’ comment was pretty on the nose. Yes the British flag has been co-opted, but it doesn’t mean that to everyone. :grimacing::roll_eyes:

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I don’t have a dog in the fight but just thought it was really dreadful writing. The ‘I was poorer than them’ stuff was abysmal.

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Oh I liked Oasis especially Definitely Maybe

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I was meaning more how rude Liam has been in the past

Well he failed to acknowledge the difference education makes.

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Yep, and his final paragraphs were just you’re shit everything I like is better

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He’s a dreadful writer with terrible music taste.

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I know it’s the Spectator but this made me chortle.

Noel Gallagher is the older, marginally more intelligent brother, who wrote all the early songs and once described his dimwitted younger brother Liam as ‘a man with a fork in a world of soup’. If only any of his songs had been as good as that. Like Elvis Costello once said, ‘Noel is deluded about a lot of things, most obviously that he is a songwriter at all.’ Noel’s lumpen, meat-and-potato songs stole so widely from the repertoire of 1960s and 1970s rock classics that it became more fun to try and work out where he had stolen those riffs than actually listen to them.

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Justins brother

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Elvis Costello is fucking dreadful. Contrived singing voice, plus Oliver’s Army makes my skin crawl.
Buddy Holly impersonator who by rights should have been on the same plane.

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Cant get on board with anyone who was listening to Oasis at a time when some of the most exciting dance music + best hip hop was coming out.

Also cant get on board with people playing working class top trumps. Noticed it alot on twitter over the years. People who are now comfortable and earning good money trying to play it down with various anecdotes of their definitely not middle class childhood.

FWW i was 16 in 1994. Pretty much everyone on the council estate where I lived (nb: 5 working class points!) listened to hardcore or jungle, but being a white area it was predominately happy hardcore for the 14-18 year olds. At college, it was mainly the middle/upper middle class kids that listened to guitar based stuff.
Weirdly, they were well off and dressed down + the council estate kids were looking to dress up.

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What about people who listened to both?

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Exactly, it’s possible to have a foot in both camps

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It is. I just didnt know anyone like that, what with everything being a bit more tribal back then.

What did happen by about 1998 was that some of the raver lot started going to the pub more once they hit 18 and then the guitar bands like Oasis, The Verve and whatever else were the thing (+ happy hardcore died because it was terrible!).

Generally though, that broadsheet default line that Oasis represented the working class of the 90s was a bit bollocks imo.

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