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Your son is Rosy Cheeks?

I’d have to disagree that it wasn’t the band’s fault that they got the following they did. My recollection is that they both acted, and continue to act like exactly the kind of blokes I’d run a mile to avoid. The leary, coked up swagger, sticking two fingers up to every camera, and pretending to be so very hard. It completely typified the Loaded magazine mentality, and I reckon they basically hoodwinked a generation and obviously continue to do so.
As far as the music goes it never appealed to me but I couldn’t have liked it anyway on the basis of the personalities that made it. It always seemed like a bit of a lame gang to be part of.
Much in the same way that Jimmy Carr is possibly funny but I just can’t stand the bloke so don’t engage.

One more thing, a while ago I watched a video which dissected a performance that they did at wembley stadium. I couldn’t believe what I was watching. Anyone who shows that much disdain for the people who’ve paid money to see them perform shouldn’t be allowed on stage again. But no, it hasn’t affected me at all. :joy:

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I wouldn’t disagree with much of this though I still hated Oasis :grimacing:

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Fair enough. It would be boring if we all liked the same things.

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Yes it would, and I think you’re right about the Roses. :+1:

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The mid-90s seemed to represent a real decline in how British pop was seen globally,: inward-looking, parochial, nostalgic, ladz and hen parties… not very interesting or exportable… the contrast with the pioneering 60s and then again the experimental early 80s was extreme. Which is why the underground was so vital in offering a counter balance.

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I was 13 when Morning Glory dropped and I sprang for the cassette. Everyone in our class (in Seattle of all places) could pretty much sing every cut from that and Definitely Maybe. It was sort of that early post-grunge haze here and it felt welcome at the time. The antics were pretty much lost on us but the tunes hit. I wonder what it would sound like to me now… :grimacing:

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No. Yellow sweatshirt, blond hair.

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i did love creation records back then, so i gave them a shot based on supersonic. i have a tendency to judge songs based on a few factors - do i like this performance, and/or would i like this song if a better band did it?

in the case of supersonic, i remember thinking that it’d make a pretty great teenage fanclub song.

they were artificially big in the states - one of those “big everywhere but here” type of things where the industry goes “welp, let’s give them a push and see how this plays in peoria”.

this ends up happening a lot - think kylie. she had like fifty tracks in the UK top 40, and here in the states, she’s had like three.

the US market weren’t hungry for oasis, they sold because MTV put wonderwall in heavy rotation. i don’t think there’s a large contingent of US show-goers just achin’ for an oasis reunion. they’ll do fine if they tour here, but i don’t see them embedded in US culture like they are/were in the UK.

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You have to play the game in America though don’t you? Do the meet and greets and blow smoke up the big shots arse in whatever town/city you happen to be in over and over and over, it’s why careerists like Coldplay were/are big over there.
The Gallaghers were too self destuctive/arrogant to do that, i’ve heard them say a few times over the years they weren’t particularly arsed about breaking America, recently saw a Black Grape documentary filmed in the 90s and Shaun Ryder says the same thing.

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Give me Oasis over Coldplay any day of the week.

They peaked in 95 imo and to me this reunion is unnecessary but then I’m not a 17 yr old that never got to see them first time round- nor am I a divorcee who just got stung for £20mil

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As a 15 year old seeing them on The Word for the first time was ace and also felt like we were in on a secret. Went to Our Price the next day and asked for their album. “It’s not out for a bit mate!” Went in heavy and bought all the 12s on that first album but had kind of moved on by What’s the Story. Burned bright but very much of a time in my life.

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all of that for sure. but, you also have to be somewhat nationless to cross over and succeed in the states. i think of bands like INXS - i doubt 20% of the americans who bought “kick” could have correctly noted that they were australian. U2 basically supplicated themselves to america in the 80’s, what with that era of memphis worship and MLK fetishizing - old fans remember that they’re irish, but most fans past 1990 likely can’t pin down the nationality. as top 40 host casey kasem was caught saying “these guys are from england, and who gives a shit”.

my mom knows who coldplay are, but would probably guess that they were from boston.

the union jack ephiphone and all of those disinterested mouthy MTV interviews made oasis seem sort of cartoonishly british - austin powers-ish.

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Plague or cholera? Our string quartet has had to play Coldplay at a bajillion weddings, can’t say the same for Oasis and I’d be pleasantly surprised if someone made the request.

You’re very naughty :joy:

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I loved them for what they were at the time. Was never a huge fan but caught them at Glastonbury for a bit where I thought they were pretty underwhelming and again at Finsbury Park where the atmosphere was pretty Neanderthal.

Wouldn’t want to see them again but can imagine it will be a nostalgic spectacle to behold and probably a lot of fun.

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Yes, always valuable comments for me!

I think it all depends on how much the Americans are into football. The city fan groups are already talking chartering planes to go to the shows.

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