What don't you get

I’ve always disliked Oasis. Their fans, their music, their entire shtick. Is it even a reunion if the 2 brothers are the only original members performing? Do any real fans out there give a shit about that?

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This is exactly my position. I wouldn’t cross the road to see them play.

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Oasis were always fucking shite. All of it. Wonderwall, shite. Cigarettes and Alcohol, shite. Shit clothes, shit hair, shit music. This rewriting of history that they were ever “cool” is nonsense. Always a plodding poor man’s Beatles, sing-along dirge. The Robbie Williams of “indie rock”.

The state of this for example.

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Fun fact. A friend of mine knocked Liam out after an entire evening of threats of violence against him(my friend) at an industry night. Got to leaving and was approached by said idiot again and after another threat of stabbing etc. My lovely friend decided that enough was enough. It never made the papers, but I wish that it had. The whole “I’m a brainless footy thug” schtick. Like Peter Kay so succinctly put it, what a knobhead.

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Britain’s pub bugle dealer fraternity already rubbing their hands in anticipation.

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This tour will shit money - they will make upwards of £50m from it my mate who is an expert in these things tells me. Should just about cover Noel’s divorce.

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Opinions are free. An alternative one is that Supersonic is one of the greatest debut singles of all time, the first three singles are brilliant, and Definitely Maybe was an amazing debut album. After that, not so much.

I’m gonna go if I can get tickets. Yeah it’ll be a bit shit, yeah it’ll be full of wankers, but it would all be worth it if they can turn in a decent version of Columbia or Supersonic.

Stone Roses at Heaton Park and Hampden were both absolute carnage and it was fucking brilliant both times. I’ve never been so off my face and I fucking LOVED IT :fist::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Yeah thats my take too. For a little while back there 94-96 in the eye of the storm it was a lot of fun, especially if you were from the North West. Some genuinely great tunes. Everything after Morning Glory is bloated shite. They are both obviously a pair of gobshite whoppers and attract an awful crowd but they are never less than entertaining. I’m gonna go if I can get tickets

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Yeah totally. I mean Columbia, to me that had the same kind of rhythm, arrangement and flow as the best House tunes. Hearing that out loud when you’re in that elevated mood, just phenomenal.

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Yep DM still holds up in my opinion, fantastic album, can’t hear any Beatles in there tbh, more T Rex, Slade, Sex Pistols, Roses…
Diminishing returns since then, they turned shite when they moved down south and got rid of Tony MaCarroll lol

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Oasis always felt to me like the British ‘disco sucks’, a last-ditch reaction against club culture.

It meant nothing to a 19 year old into The Orb or Urban Species or Bassheads

In own way I suppose I was also pretty blinkered at the time - against guitars - but it took the creative might of Radiohead to reopen my mind there

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Personally I think it’s made a lot of people happy and excited again all around the country and the country could do with a healthy dose of excitement and happiness right now.

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I enjoyed guitars at the time and still couldn’t understand the banal draw of Oasis at the time. It did, and still does, feel like completely soulless music to me. A shade of drab bone grey in a world where there’s such colourful, inventive music.

But taste is very subjective and I understand that.

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“give me gin and tonic, I’m feeling supersonic”

I think it was Richey Edwards who said at the time “what? I haven’t felt supersonic since i was ten”.

edit. Here’s the actual quote fwiw.

I would like to be able to write’ I’m feeling supersonic, give me gin and tonic’, but I just can’t. I think that’s a brilliant lyric, but I haven’t felt supersonic since I was about ten years old.

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I just don’t get how anyone on here can endorse that shite. Acid house in large part came about as a means for expressive people to ESCAPE from neanderthal blokes in shitty pubs. I get it’s subjective and I listened to lot of cheesy crap in the nineties but it was always looking fwd never back. I knew the beatles anthology would be grim too (GH only did it to pay off his debts) which was when I concluded certain things should be left in the museum

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I don’t feel like it’s the band’s fault that they gained that sort of following eventually. They weren’t shy to say what they felt and after everyone was over Grunge, British music journalism was crying out for some quotable copy, which in turn got picked up by the tabloids. Early Oasis gigs weren’t full of Adidads in bucket hats. They were full of Indie kids and Students.

Oasis to me were just a continuation of years of Indie bands and (mostly) Creation acts making raucous guitar music.

But contrary to the Indie edict of not wanting to be huge, they openly admitted they wanted to be massive. In fairness, The Jesus and Mary Chain always said that, and Primal Scream too, but never quite managed to make anyone other than Alan McGee believe it :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: (pre-Screamadelica obvs, but even then, they still weren’t that big really)

The songs sounded absolutely enormous on the radio, let alone a PA.

If you really want to blame anyone for the rise of Oasis, it’s the lack of a quick follow up album by Stone Roses that paved the way! Blame John Squire’s ching habit :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Not ashamed to admit I loved Definitely Maybe and even if the tunes were derivative, the vibe felt fresh in 94 after a few years of house.

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Here’s one for the vicarious Small Claims as my son (in yellow top) asks Liam if he gets given sweets after a gig……

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Only Pulp emerged from that entire circus with any integrity, the true heirs to the kinks and madness, telling an actual story about Englishness which resonated

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Yep, the House or Dance scene in the UK was pretty stale at the time DM came out, Oakenfold and his shitty flouro trance crap, prog house with pony tails & waist coats, no thanks.
My other big love, Hip Hop, had come out of the golden age and was going into the Shiny Suit, Puff Daddy era which didn’t excite me at all.
I never thought Oasis were the greatest thing ever, I thought the Roses coneback would blow them out the water at the time (lol) but they were exciting for that period.

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