this! eloquently put, sir!
i think “we” as a society, need to recognise that there is no “they” that can solve “our” problems, locally and globally. as you say, the whole things structured in such a way to maintain “us” as dependent in the belief that our government (parents) are gonna “sort it all out”. i live in uncomfortable hope that, as you say, time, and the decline of a passive ageing generation will make way for a better world for all of “us” .
make babies, raise them well!
The next election is the most important since 1997. If they win again then we are in deep shit because they are absolutely fucking mental.
There’ll always be a warm welcome (and a conference centre) for them in Harrogate - a liitle piece of the Home Counties right here in Yorkshire 
Sincere apologies here 
It wasn’t an intention to turn this into a political/ anti tory thread*
although the fckers do deserve all the slating they have had here
With all respect it would take a monumental fuck up on Labours part for them not to win the next election.
Stating the obvious here but: They’ll continue to rape & pillage as much as they can for the next 12 months then hand a broken Britain over to Labour to try & perform the impossible.
And meanwhile Sunak will be sat in the Californian sun counting his millions on that green card he had in his back pocket.
Indeed it’s Labour’s to lose at the moment, although the Tris are already getting the usual suspects lined up for a verbal kicking ie benefit ‘scoungers’, asylum seekers/refugees and labelling anyone who cares about the environment some sort of eco-terrorist. All this to appeal to the 2023 equivalent of Mondeo Man… Tesla Ted(??) but guessing that doesn’t really work given they’re electric!!!
I recently came back to the UK for the first time in 16 years. I was completely shocked at the state of things. I had heard British people in Australia saying things like "forget about the UK, it’s finished " etc. but always thought that they were just being dramatic. Closed down seaside towns, high streets up and down the country pretty much boarded up, ridiculous prices for pretty much everything, and a population that somehow largely don’t blame the political party who made all the decisions to create this “change”. I found it entirely dystopian and was very sad to see. It would seem that the political/media culture has perfected a kind of mass hypnosis for the public and does not wish to change anything. Murdoch + Tory and then Westminster destruction machine.
Someone should work out the cost ratio of asylum seekers to what these lot have pillaged from the country and present it to the working man.
Wasn’t Michelle Mone, that’s BARONESS Michelle Mone, paid £223,000,000 for her duff PPE?
Or Dido Harding’s lot paid a whopping £37,000,000,000 for track and trace that didn’t f@cking work?
Yet people on boats or benefits are the problem.
I mean come on…
Aaaarrrgh 
Never write them off. Only Tony Blair has won a majority for Labour since 1966. I’ve seen first hand how Labour loses elections! I do agree that the Tories look very likely to lose this time though.
Agreed. Very unwise to say it’s Labours. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if the tories get in again despite everything.
Yeah, I get you both but with polls predicting Labour getting almost double the tories vote it would be one hell of a comeback 
Yep, if they lose the next election, they’ll adapt and be back again, unfortunately England is true blue Tory in the main, they are the most successful political party in history apparently.
No one admits voting for the f*ckers but they get in nearly every time.
Call me cynical but I think that’s their plan.
Rinse the country for everything they can, hand over to Labour. After 5 years of opposition, claim that Labour have made things worse then try and get re-elected.
I read this morning that tory corruption for 2022 was calculated at £219bn.
Frightening figure.
It is.
Thankfully I don’t have any debt problems, but I certainly wouldn’t have any qualms about being in debt with that shower of shit ‘leading by example’.
As has been hinted at, the lack of a formidable opposition is what has allowed the Tories to run riot in my view. I’m not convinced that Labour has adapted to the broad changes in society to secure a mandate for repeated re-election . The call centre is the new coal face and I think their failure to connect with those potential voters and the continued dependency on the left leaning/ well meaning middle classes is not sustainable. They might well get in next time, I hope they do, but it won’t be because of their successes, only Tory failures IMO
Completely agree with this, as someone in their (late) 20s who up until the age of 25 had only ever worked in call centres after fucking up the later years of education, the majority of the people I worked with had extremely little to no engagement with politics on the basis that there’s absolutely no party or politician that they can relate to or feel they can engage with.
My part of the world is predominately Conservative country, and so many people here have instinctively voted Tory as their parents and grandparents did, and as the media they expose themselves to encourages them to do so. Should they vote Labour next time, this will absolutely be as a result of the Tory shit show of recent years, rather than Labour offering any sense of hope or change.
Labour can’t differentiate themselves from the Tories by being proper left wing because they’d get crushed at the polls like they did under Corbyn, the only chance they have is by moving over to the centre ground like Blair did.
Yep young people are idealistic and/or disillusioned and then they become older/middle aged with a family and a mortgage and vote Tory.
Depressing tbh.
That clip that is doing the rounds of Patel and Farage dancing 
How different it all could’ve been had the Millibands got their shit together
Beth Rigby told Sunak that the conservative party still love liz truss and its more than they love him.
WTF
