Exactly. If they have to play games then they should just charge silly money for a d/l, at least you’d have a choice.
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ha, not at all…I couldn’t care less how else music is available, as long as, if i want it, it’s also on vinyl.
I really don’t get why, if site’s like Spotify are so bad, music producers bother with them at all. They’re just supporting the model by putting stuff on there.
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It’s just elitist nonsense, sure if you live in a town/city that has a record shop that they deign to distribute to, then cool, if not then tough titty. Why would you restrict who you sell to? What are folks going to do if they live miles from a store, well they are going to rip it from Soundcloud or Youtube, so who wins then?
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Rights/licenses could be a factor in this, tbf. Particularly for reissues. Physical only licensing agreements are a lot easier to agree and manage.
Working on a small handful of reissues at the minute and initially wanted to include digital/streaming but have decided against it after speaking to others in the game.
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but with online stores like Juno we are no longer at the mercy of what local stores choose to stock. I may get shot down for this but i really don’t care about local record shops being open, for 20+ years what i bought was based on what they had in not what i really wanted.
I buy new almost solely from Juno, occasionally Bandcamp, for old almost exclusively Discogs - i really can’t be arsed with ‘digging’ and ‘taking a punt’
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Sure, but my point about ‘elitist nonsense’ still stands maybe, ‘you can only buy our art if you own an outdated niche piece of hardware’ is basically what they are saying.
Bandcamp is the perfect outlet, high quality and affordable with good returns, whats not to love?
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I’m happy with unlimited digital and limited vinyl… Just because it matters to me i really don’t see why it should matter to anyone else.
Absolutely, I love physical records and I get they should be ‘expensive’ as they unlike digital files have (for now) some resale value. But to restrict your product based on some self believed nonsense is bordering on narcissistic to me.
Sure do a staggered release, make Wavs half the price of the physical record, but at least release a digital version.
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Yeah. Agree with all of this
As someone who buys pretty much exclusively vinyl, I will say that having a potential to buy a digital copy if the physical release gets sold out is pretty great before wincing at Discogs prices. I don’t know why you would want to limit a revenue stream in this day and age unless, as stated above, you were hamstrung by licensing laws.
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I do think that the artist should be allowed to determine how their art is consumed, regardless of whether it’s convenient for us as consumers.
Completely understand everyone’s opinions on this though and I also think we as consumers should be allowed to moan if something isn’t released on our preferred format…
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we came up with a loose audio grading framework yesterday which was based on on “would this make for an acceptable/playable digital rip?”
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I feel one key thing missing here is the fact that there’s still a fear that the downturn in vinyl sales earlier this century will rear its head again
I think there’s more to it than just ‘exclusivity’ for some.
For people that love vinyl I do think there’s an eagerness to continue to promote and sustain the format and in addition, the sonic presentation of their music which in some people’s perspective simply sounds better via an analogue medium, which rounds off the edges of (invariably these days) digital led production techniques.
This approach of course though doesn’t always benefit the consumer.
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Mixcloud Spotlights.
I’ve now started getting ‘followed’ by people who literally follow thousands of accounts, in the vain hope that each one will follow them back - which they clearly don’t as most have only a few hundred followers at best, and I can guarantee they’ll never listen to a single thing I upload.
If you’re not going to listen to a mix/show/whatever, then why bother? A lot of them also have their user name in capital letters, like DJ REDFLAG.
Just another gameification of a platform that is trying to equate follows/likes with popularity, which it clearly isn’t.
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Bandcamp is terrible for physical releases where I live! Shipping is usually twice the price of the release.
What’s the take on people who buy the record, rip it to digital, then sell the record on discogs, keeping the digi to DJ with? Above board or underhanded?
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I’d say fine if it’s a general release, if it’s super limited like an Al Kent - it’s still ok if you sell it on at cost. Profiteering is not cool.
I don’t get why Hot Biscuit will charge me 3 x postage if i bought 3 records together - i wait for those to be in the shops, even though slightly higher price 1 lot of postage makes it cheaper.
Yeah I like Bandcamp but the shipping costs are sometimes unaffordable.
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Even if you are in the UK buying from a UK label the shipping costs often bear no relation to the actual cost.
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Been kicked out of the site a few times this week. When I try to log back in I get a ‘you can’t log in with that ip address’ type message.
Is it just me?
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Nope me too 
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