look mate I don’t want to engage in needlessly overanalysing peoples posts but it read to me like a dismissal of a whole part of London’s multicultural fabric. If the idea was that they don’t understand or find these musics, uninteresting then that is totally cool, it opens up avenue for discussion.
but grime, dubstep, bassline and broken beat all sound starkly different.
It would be like me saying I hate ‘hip hop, rnb, and bashment’. Or any music but hip hop, rnb and bashment. Can you see how that comes across as a bit dodgy?
I’ll concede that I said I find the DFA /trash type stuff ‘really dull’ but I couldn’t say I ‘hate’ it, because I don’t know enough about those circles, the scene and that subculture. But I’m always willing to revise my opinions on music.
I’m not going to champion everything black london has produced because that would be some kind of deplorable racial/cultural fetishism. For instance drill, as a genre … let’s just say it’s not meant for me. I will listen to it, always keeping my ears to the ground; some of it I find interesting (and will be like check out what the kids are doing) some of it I find cliched and dull, but I’m happy to accept that I’m an older guy and it’s not meant to appeal to me as a social movement.
Similarly whilst I love dancehall and 90s ragga, the christian-derived rastafarianism is not where I am coming from and I would never say I am the target audience.
if only it were that simple! But dance music has been a multi million pound industry since the late 80s at least. power structures form, certain people are in positions to shape narritives. Others are excluded, intentionally (or more than not, unintentionally.)
Anyway I’ve said what I have to say. there’s no point dragging it out any further.
please don’t patronise me telling me what and what not to get into my head, thank you.
But as above I have nothing more to say on the topic and the fact you are taking this personally is completely at odds with the point I am making. you could personally dislike all dance music including house and techno, for all I care. your tastes as a private individual are just that.
Probably a good idea. We’re all passionate about the music we love. We all have different opinions and tastes. Some overlap, some don’t. It really is that simple. No hidden agenda just banter with like minded music lovers.
Blimey. I never come to this thread (this was always going to be the contentious one) but yeah it’s a rare thing to have to actually moderate . There’s bits missing in the conversation so not sure what’s what but can we avoid anything getting (too) personal and any pile ons too pls. I’m enjoying all the music chat too much for it to misfire.
There’s a nice low down mellow vibe to this place and it’d be nice to keep our quiet little corner of the internet that way if possible. All musics (sic) welcome. X
Library music is something I’ve never actually explored. Is there genuine gold out there? Like stuff people would dance to? I’ve perhaps wrongly seen it as the preserve of deep diggers trying to one-up other deep diggers.
. There’s bits missing in the conversation so not sure what’s what but can we avoid anything getting (too) personal and any pile ons too pls. I’m enjoying all the music chat too much for it to misfire.
