What don't you get

Not used it for years :+1:t2:

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hmm, I think anyone putting out art publically deserves an honest evaluation. Dylan, McCartney and other ‘seniors’ will still get slated if they churn out shit. I don’t see what the difference is? I don’t think that is inconsistent with recognising someone’s talent or lifetime contribution

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I’m afraid I don’t generally hold truck with the high regard given to critical opinion particularly with regard to the creative arts.

The subjectivity and variety of opinion undermines its worth for the most part for me.

I’d rather decide for myself.

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Totally subjective but I think criticism still has value though. It gives clues as to what to expect, unless of course you’re Paul Morley and nobody is any the wiser at the end haha

Reviews certainly helped me navigate the fiendishly complex world of dance genres in the 90s

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My wife has been a music critic for 30+ years. She’ll tell you that where there used to be critical opinion, there is now mostly just press release re-gurgitation - I know which I’d prefer.

Having said that, she made her name by ‘taking a position’ and shooting her mouth off, which was often more important than actually talking about the music. Something I always objected to!

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Yeah “Ian Curtis died for you “ was a low point re Morley

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I didn’t know much about Jackmaster.
And I was just reading this on RA:

And immediately went online to check out Rustie “Ultra Thizz” ready to be blown away and get straight on Discogs.

Ultra Thizz (Youtube)

But it left me cold.
I listened to a lot of Warp, Squarepusher and am a lover of the Blech mix series. But this leaves me cold, I don’t get it. I don’t want to be facile and say “it’s not music” but, it’s definitely not one of the greatest songs of the century. What am I missing?

Blech II for anyone who hasn’t heard it, worth a listen:

Link to Youtube

Full Jackmaster article:

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Yeah that tracks got everything going on but it doesn’t particularly work for me either

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I jumped over to BlueSky yesterday but I think there’s different reasons why Twitter has held firm

  1. for people with big followings it presents a real dilemma, esp if you’re worried about losing a precious network that took years to build
  2. journos, politicians and others might not want to lose competitive advantage by ceding a space where millions still hang out
  3. I think there are also quite a few people who think it is better to engage the enemy on their own turf. Whether this really works I don’t know?
  4. There’s all the data and private conversations that people might want to hold on to
  5. A lot of people are just there for Dion Dublin or Skream or whoever
  6. Habit

some of those might seem pretty minor compared to what’s at stake, but I think it would take something big to unleash the floodgates and it feels like BlueSky don’t yet have that recognition clout

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All of that really. I’d muted most political stuff and anything else i didnt want to see as i was just interested in music, but that became a stream of very repetitive content and very ill informed opinions. Once that twat Musk started implementing his changes and making everything about it worse ive sacked it off.

Deleted it from my phone and just check it ob my laptop a few times a week as occasionally get DMs and stuff on there. Did the same with Insta. Both huge time wasters and cant say i feel like im missing out (sorry, theres a whole seperate thread for this subject isnt there!)

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Phil Sherburne asks if this guy is ‘reinventing everything you know about DJing?’ I couldn’t possibly comment on a genre that’s clearly not meant for me, and it’s probably a good thing that the youth are into stuff that puzzles an old git like me. But, genuine question; is this a actual scene or just a Boiler Room hype?

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So it’s a bit like the equivalent of “the place to see and be seen”, even though the club owner is of dubious character, taking your money, data and undermining your democratic future.
This forum is as social media as I get and I have a habit of over oversimplifying things. I imagine the resources used to keep users locked in are vast.

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You could save on his booking fee by deliberately playing a scratched, skipping CD over the club system to my ears

And it would sound better

Nevertheless, good luck to him if there’s an audience for it, I’m clearly not the target audience

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Is this a piss take? I’m lost…if that’s the future of DJing i’m oot.

Absolute shite

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Yup no matter how you try and slice that up, it’s a massive shit sandwich :grimacing:

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I do sometimes wonder of it’s because our generation and the one after, monopolised all the good stuff, and the kids these days are just left with the remnants that they are desperately trying to create a scene from :wink:

As the old saying goes, you can’t polish a turd, (especially when it’s absolute dogshit.)

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Come back horsegiirL, all is forgiven :rofl:

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Not heard of him and only checked a minute or two with phone to my ear in the sandwich shop.
It wasn’t for me, but equally not the ear poison I was expecting (eg James Hype). Sounded like a take on some 90s Relief records tbh.

Edit: ok I managed the first 6 minutes when I got home. Jeez that was unpleasant

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That’s actually a really good perspective I forgot, in my own post up thread. Nice one.

It’s not for me to like Rustie. As long as the kids do and keep going out and keep the venues going - all good.

(Look at us being all healthy and checking our perspective :wink: not the mid 00s ranty forum behaviour. I feel like I’ve grown!)

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Haha, cartoon bubble pop sounds (imagine the poor engineers installing an expensive system, tuning it, and then people play this) and someone with a massive ego creating an ADHD fever dream musical soundscape. Put on an episode of Roadrunner and Wiley Coyote with a beat behind it and it’s the same thing. Its objectively shit. Yes, I’m old and yes I’m grumpy :angry::wink:

Anyway, im off on Sunday to see Darryn Jones DJ a party in an old cinema in Auckland, which is the appropriate way to cleanse my brain of this mess.

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