What don't you get

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Banksy. Or more specifically why hes still considered interesting and newsworthy. Seems to have been doing the same thing over and over.

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One of the great mysteries of the world is how he’s become so insanely successful by churning out Mike Giggler/Colin Wanker level sixth form puns. It’s satire on the most basic, boring, unchallenging level. Who actually likes it?

That said, he’s a multi millionaire and I’m a bloke wanging on about his shit art on a message board, so who’s laughing.

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Just strikes me as weird that someone who is “a creative” is content doing what he does. Maybe he knocks out a load of amazing stuff under another name, who knows?

Presumably he has other people putting these pieces up for him.

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Seeking approval for a rewind. Jesus did his parents ignore him as a kid?

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When I worked Old Street early nineties he did the ‘Have a nice day’ on the Shoreditch Town Hall railway bridge, used to make me chuckle when I walked past it daily. I bought a ‘Wrong War’ T shirt to go on the march too. Was his ‘moment’ then, but agree he hasn’t done much of note since.

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in his defence I think he did get people talking about the value of art (much as Bill Drummond did). There was a place at the time for situationist pranks that made people think and which challenged other artists too. But it lost impact over time as the shock value receded and maybe that’s why we’re more cynical now?

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I think the problem is, with all artists, that you find something that sells and then your agent/whomever makes you churn them out out in their thousands so so VC can say he has one. Look at Nate Lowman, Jeff Koons or any of them really. New day, same shit.

The art world is truly a soulless place.

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I though “exit through the gift shop” savaged the art world brilliantly, but the irony was completely lost on Mr Brainwash who actually built a career out of it - so what exactly is the message here, hmmm?

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Yeah I lasted all of 30 minutes with the Breakdancing.

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Speaking of Bill Drummond I thought the KLF money burning stunt was a disgrace. In fact KLF irritated me generally, neither funny, arch or clever.

Give it to charity

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I remember thinking about this loads at the time. And I know they were conflicted and haunted by it for a long time after too. And yes there’s the face value WASTE but was the onus really on them to do what anyone else would’ve done? when this was just about the most PUNK ART thing you could do? So I dunno, maybe they just made us think about these things and I really admire them for that.

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Hear what you’re saying but I didn’t see any artistic merit to it at all.
Being contrary for its own sake is the lowest common denominator ‘punk’ cliche imo… but bound to divide opinion, which politicians do on a regular basis and I don’t consider them artists either!

‘contrarian’ to me implies saying something just to be different, whereas I think everything the KLF ever did was intended as a savage satire of an overbloated music industry

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And yet they made their ‘never to be available again’ catalogue available again on streaming services a couple of years back

I don’t think personally that their stunts were nuanced and subtle enough to be considered first rate satire but for sure my opinion is no more valid than yours :+1:t2:

There seemed to be a soap guy in every bar we went into in Dundee recently. It’s pretty intimidating.

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sounds like we have very different memories of the KLF. I still think they were a breath of fresh air, intelligent, funny and made ace music. the anti-modern pop in every sense.

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I remember ‘soap guys’ at Love Ranch and Naked Lunch back in the early nineties.

I could never really understand what they were supposed to be doing. At first I’d assumed it was to prevent people indulging in the old recreationals but in both cases they seemed to be in an absolute state themselves. There certainly wasn’t much soap being dispensed :joy:

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a spray of cologne to get rid of the lingering smell of poppers?

My local corner shop sells poppers for some reason , not gone in yet

Walk up for a pint of milk, get home in a state!!!

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Having been in charge of a few venues I can tell you that the soap guys definitely serve a purpose!

No bar staff will ever clean a loo and bus boys would mutiny if you asked, so the only way to deal with the numerous pukes, floods and other natural disaters you get in a nightclub bog is to have someone responsible on hand to deal with it quickly. They are usually badly paid hence the sweets colognes etc.

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