What classifies as a ‘chugger’?

Must admit, always regarded the term ‘chugger’ as description of 4 on the floor between around 100-112 bpm. But in the other thread, there’s quiet village, Land of Light etc. I always consider these as not chuggers. The sub 100bpm and overall vibe doesn’t scream ‘chugger’ to me, it’s something else entirely. What say ye?

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For me, I think it comes down to the overall vibe of the track. You can have a chuggy 90 bpm track, as much as you can have a ‘chilled’ 100bpm-er.

For example, off the top of my head

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For me it’s anything with a slower druggy driving groove, anything under 120 BPM I guess.

Doesn’t just have to be ALFOS type tunes, like I said on the other thread it’s a broad church from Cosmic Ítalo, Balearic, slo-mo Chi-Town grooves, early 90’s Balearic beats etc, etc

Even this …

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Yeah I’d agree with this pretty much

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I agree totally, and I wouldn’t call quiet village driving for example. Downtempo blissed out audio nirvana more like.

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So there’s a legal concept known as the ‘elephant test’ which basically means you may not be able to fully describe something but you’ll sure as hell know it when you see it.

If you hear a tune and you can’t picture yourself at a party in a basement, killer system, smoke machine, red light, heads down and deep into it, then it’s probably not a chugger!

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Something you still want to dance to with creaky knees

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Love this version. It definitely chugs! Those early Revenge edits were brilliant.

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Exactly. It was that happy coming together of baldelli, scandolearic, alfos juxtaposed with everyone getting older and slowing down. I never looked back.

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Scandolearic, good one :sunglasses:

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Night Flight is everything!!!

Such a good record :blue_heart:

slo-mo chugger

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But is it a chugger? @howler :rofl:

It’s extremely slow and it isn’t driving, in fact the opposite, it’s completely laid back and I couldn’t imagine dancing to it in any kind of venue. I could maybe imagine it being used to open a long ALFOS style set but that’s about it. A lovely record however.

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This one still does it too

6th Borough Project - Just a Memory

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All about perceptions, innit?

One man’s chug is another man’s chill. :wink:
See, for me, this definitely chugs from 7 mins onwards and I’ve danced many a time to it :smile:

What you’re describing as chug, I would describe as ‘grinders’ (100-110 bpm) and anything above 115, I start feeling faint, and above 120 I start getting nosebleeds :rofl:

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That’ll teach me haha… slap on the wrists for not listening all the way through before commenting, I’m an impatient bugger, the tempo change makes all the difference

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lol yes was gonna say. A new term to my lexicon here. Potentially thread worthy…