That’s just about the most coherent articulation of this event I’ve heard
Went up North at the weekend. The streets are lined with loads of St George flags and people are joining Reform in droves. It’s all pretty saddening
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Depressing as it is I think we are past the point of no return.
There is no coherent opposition and to say that Labour/Starmer have been a disappointment is an obvious under statement.
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Its like no one learned anything from Brexit.
Farage “Leave Europe - thats why your life is shit!”
British public “yes, lets do that”
Price of everything goes up
Farage “its the boats, its Labour, its immigrants although strangely, just the brown ones! We need more flags!”
British public: “yes, flags! Get rid of people who are different to us but we definitely aren’t racist”
And when nothing changes because actually the immigrants arent responsible for the cost of living and successive governements spending money in the wrong places, what then?
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I agree - Labour’s identity crisis for the last 30 years hasn’t helped matters though
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In fairness it’s not like that everywhere by any means
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Yeah it did seem to be concentrated in certain areas.
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At the same time as he calls for the reduction in Government whilst he’s benefitted hugely from the state. Massive cunt.
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Read a post from an American political journo on BlueSky (can’t remember who unfortunately) who said that the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street got together, had a baby, and named it “MAGA.”
I’m going on holiday around the UK in October from the states - I’m sad to think I’m traveling from one political frying pan into another…
You will have a great time. The majority of people in the UK are not like that at all. I was chatting to an American in the village pub who had just moved to the UK and he loved being here.
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That’s great to hear. We’re very much looking forward to it (milestone birthday for me), and know some brilliant people all around.
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Create the problem, offer the solution.
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Labours messaging isn’t cutting through but can you imagine the Tories doing the following within their first 12 months:
Month on month reduction in NHS waiting lists
Doctor strikes resolved
A rail franchise back into public ownership
GB Energy
Removing VAT exemption for private schools
Trade deal with India
Scrapped Rwanda and made an arrangement with France
Processing asylum claims in a more timely fashion so that people aren’t left in limbo for unnecessarily long periods
School Breakfast Clubs
. etc
Obviously it remains to be seen how effective all of this will be. They could definitely be less afraid of Reform and acknowledge the Brexit elephant in the room. And to both recognise Palestine and to explicitly call out the Genocide.
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Quite useful
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My theory is that in the age of outrage and diminishing attention spans that nobody really knows what they are for or opposed to and they just enjoy mob politics. People vote against their best interests because the soundbite just sounded better. We are also putting the poorly educated onto a pedestal, and that is very dangerous. If Charlie Kirk seemed like the intelligent one in the room, then you are/were definitely in the wrong room.
My other theory is that nobody really wants to govern. Everyone wants the power so they can enrich themselves but when it gets down to it, it is much easier to the be the opposition than the ones in power because you can say whatever you want and criticize the ineffectiveness of those in power without having to share any of the responsibility. The left also needs to be much more aggressive.
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Tried to make myself feel better about it by doing the maths (on google obvs I’m not Rachael off countdown)
110,000 at that Whitehall protest equates to 0.15% of the population of Britain.
Course that’s not to say there aren’t many more far right nutters out there, but certainly there weren’t ’millions’ there as Robinson / Yaxley Lennon / whatever the hell he is calling himself this week- was suggesting.
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I see an electorate who are done with political spin. They want authenticity and will believe more or less anything from someone who talks like them and, in their view, “says it like it is”. Of course, most haven’t got the patience to go beyond what their mate posted on Facebook, TikTok or X and don’t question it.
Labour are toast if they stick with Starmer. The electorate simply don’t listen to, or worse believe, anything he says. They’re not interested, already made their minds up.
If Labour can replace him with someone who is prepared, by and large, to abandon “spin” and lead with integrity and transparency, they might have a chance. If not, Reform it is and a MAGA like lurch towards authoritarianism and hate.
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I’m not sure they are all right wing nutters, or even fans of Yaxley-Lennon. A few hardcore in there, but plenty who just saw it as a chance to go on the piss all day, have a bit of a laugh and scrap, with a chance to hurl abuse and objects at plod along the way.
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No doubt- but complicit by association in my view.
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