Music Production Tips/Tricks/Bits of Kit

This free sample pack from Blue Mar Ten has everything he’ll need to get started. Pretty much every classic break and lots more.

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This is pretty mental. Anyone else here creating music with code?

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I’ve been seeing these videos crop up on TikTok. Mind blowing!

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That’s crazy -looks like Octamed on steroids
My last attempt with ‘coding’ was on a zx81… wouldn’t know where to begin

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I learnt to use logic at an apple store, had a 121 session every week and it cost buttons. I now realise that this was nearly 20 years ago but might still be an option

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FOMO is hitting hard.

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Yeah it’s good innit. Quite clever niche in marketplace identified by Elektron

Not feeling it. Watched the Loopop and Oora videos and I still don’t really get the use case…feels like a rushed release.

This comment sums it up for me

https://www.reddit.com/r/Elektron/s/HZ982nzwee

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Yeah the entire hardware scene is very much geared to box jams and avoidance of staring at a timeline.

Personally I really don’t like making music on the computer and much prefer using hardware pieces. I just find it much more immersive and I can get into the flow state more easily but it’s a very subjective thing.

I then edit / arrange on the computer…

Re: Tonverk, there’s not been many decent polyphonic hardware samplers since the rack units of the nineties/early 2000s and to see a well specc’d sampler with multi-fx is a good thing… with Elektron parameter locking adding something to what went before. The way it’s being presented/marketed is odd/lost on me… but they no doubt know their audience.

Definitely a rushed release to get ahead of forthcoming new MPC… they should have sorted mult-track USB audio prior to release really as 4 mono outs on an 8 track machine is a severe limitation

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Seems like they’re after a piece of the Torso S4 and 1010 Music boxes pie.

I also enjoy making stuff on the hardware and editing in the DAW but that Reddit comment got me :rofl:

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Yeah it’s a very taut marketplace dependent on shiny new things. 1010 stuff is all touchscreen and much smaller but yeah they’re up against Torso for sure. Elektron have got a good reputation for long term product development/enhancement

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I’ve got the 1010 Blackbox and the BlueBox. Both great. I like the Digitakt II but the Blackbox is on a different level in terms of ins/outs and ease of use. Just the touchscreen is fiddly when drawing in steps in the sequencer.

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Who is producing edits and does anyone want to share some tips!? I’ve got a track in mind I’d love to cover/edit but not 100% sure where to start (edits specifically)

Cheers!

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Never seen/watched a tutorial so basically use the same method I used when I had a tape to tape.
I use Logic and the new(ish) stem separator is a game changer and makes life so much easier.
By no means an expert but these are a few things that make life easier.

  1. Make sure the audio file starts on the beat, cut off any lead in and zero track to beginning before you do anything else. Many tracks have few clicks of silence at beginning which will throw off your edits.
  2. Do any normalisation EQ’ing etc before you start.
  3. I use the built in beat counter to set the tempo, seems more accurate than any DJ controller that you may import info from when you bring the track in.
  4. If iI’m using stems mostly I’ll make the Drums and Bass mono tracks rather than the split stereo.
  5. Tend to cut it up into 16 or 32 bars or however the track is structured.
  6. I always leave the un-edited track as a ‘master’ track to check back to and reference for structure.
  7. Makes it easier if you colour code all your ‘chunks’ so you don’t get lost.

Not sure that’s going to help much but maybe a start.

Here’s a recent one I did, fairly simple, aided by the fact that the tempo was rock solid, gets super fiddly with old disco.

Did try and do a few edits on the Digitakt when I got it but was much more convoluted.
Would love to hear others workflow.

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This is ace, thanks! I’m going to have a bash at the weekend.

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Like you said material dependent

If it’s a live played song and you just want to do a straight edit of sections and rearrange then it can be better to ignore the grid altogether and just stick the sections together to line up with next downbeat of a section you are removing if that makes sense. Trying to force live stuff to grid removes all the funk if it’s loosely played anyway imo.

Splicing on snares or hats can give cleaner results as you’re not chopping low frequencies- generally just mids/ highs- you can get a cleaner result, especially if you’re trying to edit and struggling to find zero crossing points in a busy section

For stuff that’s in perfect time ( drum machine based) lining up to click can be worth the effort as it can make it easier to sync up any fx you’re using eg. 1/8 1/4 delays for example, I try and avoid time stretching or warping though- sounds crap imo, even with the best algo’s - regular old school mpc style chopping takes more time but results are better imo (eg if you want to tighten up and extend a short drum break) but again material dependent- it might sound more natural as a straight loop

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Ahh grand, great fun, although you may never want to hear the track again! Mrs hates me for spending a Sunday butchering Nina’s Baltimore, was her favourite track, maybe use headphones (perhaps that should be #1)! :joy:

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Top Tips! x

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Ha!

I guess the Viz equivalent there would be:

“Convince your neighbours you are making a disco edit by opening the windows and playing the same sections of a Philly disco classic over and over again loudly for five weeks straight”

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