I get that. His continual booking amongst his peers is what surprises me.
Spot on.
The sheer amount of support he is getting from people on social media would suggest otherwise tbh.
I wouldnt know
What an excellent, measured and clinical takedown Harold made there. I donât really engage in any social media as i despair of the right-wing slant of most of the comments that are posted, so this would have completely gone under my radar. Thanks for the link to it Chris
One of the things that gets me about the right wing media (which spends so much time knocking people itself) is when it complains that when someone who has spent years basking in good publicity suddenly feels the effect of deserved bad publicity its suddenly âcancel cultureâ.
Spiked is about the right environment for him - former weirdo revolutionary communist party activists turned loony libertarian Trump and Farage fluffers.
Iâm remembering a time around 1995 I was doing some stuff with Bumpy Capers. We were filming a thing for yoof TV, I canât remember what it was called, but we did various scenes around London. one of which was me dressed in a suit like a city slicker by the name of Danny Dumpling. Basically railing against the rise of the superstar DJ and super clubs etc etc.
Later that afternoon we went to film a piece in Tag records and guess who was in there. Yes, the man himself. His first reaction to a bit of jeering was to say âcall the policeâ and as he made a sharp exit said that the police were on their way. It was caught on film and featured in the documentary.
I suppose iâve always thought he was a bit of a cry baby and all this latest stuff doesnât surprise me.
One of the crew did get arrested that afternoon and ended up in bow street nick. I canât remember for what but probably unrelated
Dont look at the comments on SM they said, why didnt I listen
An advert fro Clockwork Orange popped up with Rampling & YES, I looked at the comments
I think we have the most HOUSE comment ever
Lesson learnt
I still struggle to both alter my own perception of what âWokeâ means in 2025 and figure out what other people think âWokeâ means in 2025.
I remember it being a word for being aware of social injustices, and the struggles other people were going through. I also donât really recall many white people using the term in the UK.
How does everyone on here (where i maybe wrongly assume everyone is a bit more left of center and enlightened to african american slang, even if itâs the older slang nowadaysâŚ) deal with this shift in the term and how often it is being thrown around?
I have to hear someone irl moan about âwoke crapâ at least once a week, and itâs usually them moaning about not being able to make rape jokes or be incredibly racist for âbantsâ. I usually just tell them to keep their culture war bullshit for facebook.
Ffs. They might as well just advertise on the poster that the party is only for massive, massive helmets.
It means the same thing it always did essentially. Only now there is a demographic of total bellends who see that as a bad thing.
Yeah woke here probably means anyone who isnât a racist old gammon
On certain levels none of this is new⌠the people crying âwokeâ now would have said âPCâ or âright onâ in the past. In the UK, I remember the likes of Bushell and Littlejohn bemoaning the collapse of civilisation when Some Mothers Do Ave Em gave way to Ben Elton⌠i think what did change is how it replaced class politics as the primary political faultline, a useful distraction for people who would rather not focus on economics
âWokeâ has many different meanings these days. Itâs about being consciousâabout histories of racial discrimination in the US primarily-- but somehow itâs been dragged too much into globalised neoliberal/ individualist identity politics which basically gets us nowhere. Itâs a straw man for the Right to rail against. As such I wouldnât really defend woke as a thing, I prefer to stick to concrete struggles over class, race, gender, homophobia, imperialism etc. I also donât like the term âallyâ- I donât want a pat on the back or a fucking Blue Peter badge just for not being a knob. Itâs so cringe. Seems to me to a way for dominant groups in society to gain even more social distinction and avoid negative feelings about privilege.
Absolutely. But as the Nightlark pointed out and born out by my own observations the only people Iâve heard use it (pub & sadly workplace) are defo gammon/probably âa bitâ racist
True- itâs a new variation of the âPC gone madâ, âIâm not racist butâŚâ tropes
By âhereâ I meant in his post rather than âhere in the UKâ but agree with all you say too.
I try not go get into politics anywhere online ( inc here) beyond posting Viz type sarcasm
@Hierbas - Was it Brexit / Trump / Covid when Right / Left debate stopped talking about Economics ( which Im into) & moved into culture wars
Id happily engage in a pub discussion about Ec policy ( e.g. personally IMO Corbyn was as bad as Truss in no plan & freaked markets if he won) but all that has stopped
Re Danny at Clockwork - Will he eq the controversial woke lyrics in Someday out , play the dub or just play Liquid Sweet Harmony ( my bet)
I think Boys Own had something about argument at the afters over who was 1st to play Pol Pot speech over MFSB ( Sorry - you shouldnât laugh)