What don't you get

Record stores changing the prices of new records to match the market, which is what I am assuming happened here.

…or a major typo?

I assume that’s a typo as it’s readily availble elsewhere for far less.

Strange. I spotted one of the Mr. Bongo 45s on Juno last night for £63.

Many of their record blurbs are badly written by AI. So many are totally wide of the mark, failing to identify the artist/sample/genre/premise of the record. I use Juno a lot.

Maybe AI does their pricing now too.

I’ve seen that a couple of times on Juno before, always presumed the same, they have a stock copy and they match the price it’s going for on Discogs.

top post BC. We’re all different obv but I think it can actually get harder to approach interviews as you get older, because nobody will want to employ anyone who’s jaded, cynical, apathetic which after 20-30 years is often institutionalised. The struggle I’ve had is regaining any kind of motivation since redundancy so I really envy people who can reinvent themselves.

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I don’t get why it preys on my mind as to whether Carlos Fandango is related to Clem Fandango.

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people who judge whether music is worth listening or dancing to on the narrowest of arbitrary tempi they have declared purely based on subjective biases.

like what does it even mean to say something is too fast or too slow to listen or dance to. That connotes nothing of any value about the musical content. thrash metal at 300 bpm obviously works for whatever it is trying to achieve.

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Maybe it just doesn’t sound good to their ears?

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Yeah the funkiness is very often in the space between the notes. And there’s more space to play with at slower tempos.imo

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all multiples of one another though. jungle is technically both faster and slower than house. 90s dancehall is slower than house yet can feel faster because of the bumpy clave rhythm.

same goes for a lot of trap and drill music.

Funk I think is also about what you don’t play, which is why dub reggae has always been the funkiest music to me.

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Tempo is an inherent element of how musical content is presented though.

Plus I’m getting older and the old legs get tired

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To me different tempos elicit different responses not through bias, but how we process rhythm and what feels good. House tempos work better for sustained movement. The space in-between adds to that and gives the rhythm room to breathe.

As the BPM increases people expect more intensity, and potentially more aggression (if you’re talking about thrash metal). No room for the nuance / space in-between.

Horses for courses.

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Is dubstep 140 or is it 70?

(definitely depends on the dubstep in my experience)

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See I get this. I’m not a metal head, but obviously expecting metal to have a sexy swing would be besides the point.

I do think it is possible to be nuanced at faster tempos, but that would depend on the type of music. I’m thinking of certain electroacoustic compositions, a lot of dribbling 90s acid from the likes of Mike Ink, etc.

conversely a lot of the high street house/dance pop/‘EDM’ with the sidechained compression and filters is at a fairly sedate mid tempo, but intolerable unnuanced to my ears.

When I was living in surrey I had to be tortured by Eric Prydz whenever going out for a drink, give me gabber over that any day! diabolical…

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It’s all just, do you like the feeling it gives you. Whether it’s too fast, slow, silky, beaty, or what TF ever else it has about ,it is just like saying it’s too salty, sweet etc. We just tend to get drawn to whatever we are into/from/looking for/needing and on and on. Personally there are endless tunes that I should like that I hate, and conversely. Just like what you like and feel what you feel. Obvious as F, but endless talk about this stuff I don’t get.

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normally I’d agree but this seems to pop up in so much club discourse and it’s one of the main reasons why I just cannot be arsed with going out anymore, exhausting.

‘oh techno’s gotten too fast’ ‘jungle is too fast to dance to’ ‘deep house is too slow’

And why should the product always match your expectation? This is always something I’ve disliked about club culture, a significant minority of people turn into reactionary Blairites on E, sooner or later.

I don’t like a lot of the contemporary hard techno, but I have hard techno records from 92-94 well into the 160s which are absolute dancefloor dynamite to this day.

I don’t recognise this at all. Having said that my interaction with club culture or discourse is limited to this forum and occasional parties with likeminded people. I can’t honestly recall a single comment regarding bpms.

“reactionary Blairites on E”

That did make me laugh. New album title?

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There probably is a new thread here on music you’re supposed to like :slightly_smiling_face: I certainly used to be a lot more impressionable and subconsciously got suckered by hype a fair few times. The final straw was probably White Elephant ‘Sir John’ which everyone seemed to venerate whilst I thought it was just wallpaper.

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Grayson Perry.

Sorry.

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