Because of the way the electoral college works, the whole thing is still very much Trump’s to lose.
Very few undecided or floating voters in the USA, less than 100,000 voters decide the election.
Whichever side wins, i can see it getting pretty nasty on the streets. Far worse and more widespread than Jan 6th.
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Imagine a Supreme Court composition like that based on only one Republican presidential candidate having won the most votes (GWB 2004) since 1992.
This tickled me
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Sadly the possibility is very, very real.
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If the fat rapist does get back in, it’s going to pose a lot of awkward questions for the more progressive half of the US. How, for starters, was this allowed to happen? How do you fight elections when facts, truth, knowledge, reason, civility and basic decency no longer apply? And can you count on younger Americans to correct things as they mature into a more complex society or is this destined to be a neverending nightmare with a brainwashed electorate at the mercy of tech lies? I think it also challenges the rest of the Western world, and particularly western Europe and some of the other ‘liberal’ anglophone countries to step up somehow and become the new defenders of democracy and human rights. Hopef reason will triumph next week, and were it not for the ridiculous electoral college system she would surely be home and dry
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Quite an interesting analysis of the nature of polling and its complexities…basically you can’t really believe most of them!
That Trump rally was absolutely wild. Fascist loonies.
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They truly showed who they are last night. Not that it was ever in doubt.
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their supporters remind me of those kids at school who would chuck someone’s pencil case around the room and then afterwards go, “who, what ME?” with a smirk.
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unfortunately he could be convicted of the most heinous crimes and STILL pull in 70 million votes simply because of who he isn’t. The religious vote is so fanatical that many genuinely see any kind of secularism as evil. My girlfriend’s extended family in Orange County are ultra-catholic (possibly in some sect) and that drives them more than anything else. They genuinely feel under siege in CA. I genuinely don’t know how you are supposed to engage with these people. The US needs the kind of deradicalisation strategy the UK put in place to steer people away from religious extremism.
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They’ll be fine when The Rapture begins.
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House of Zealous Truthers
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The hypocrisy in supporting a guy who is up there with the ultimate sinners, according to their views, is barely believable.
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Yeah the shit they convince themselves is fine because it’s Trump is mental.
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My in-laws are the same. It isn’t a sect of Catholicism but the norm in the US. They are the most racist, homophobic, keep them in the kitchen crew you can ever imagine. The mental gymnastics they are going through to support a man who is everything they shouldn’t support because of abortion rights is unbelievable. My wife’s parents and sister picket outside Planned Parenthood offices - but hilariously the ones that only provide non-abortion care because you know, signs are hard to read - but when we ask them why they aren’t trying to raise funds for mothers in need or sex education in schools their answer is, “That’s not our problem.” There is no reconciling with those people. But as I have said in their home, they can no longer have the moral high ground anymore. They are in bed with their chosen people, and that’s who they are. They don’t like that.
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My only thread of hope is that the right wing govt in Poland went full anti-abortion and it completely fucked them, lost the female vote basically
The more hard-line they go on it the more divisive it gets
This is really one for Casual, Deep Concentration and the other forum Americans to answer but what are the bonds that hold Americans together now? It just seems to me that countries fall apart when all the shared ideals and institutions no longer exist as unifiers. A divide which either started with the civil war or Vietnam or Reagonomics depending on your view. Now a lot of American history was of course built on lies and Hollywood myths (exposed repeatedly by native americans, Gil Scott Heron and hippies and others) and that is a major source of everything happening now but is it still possible for a national moment to unify people? a Kennedy moment? a moon landing? a 9/11? Or is everything too bitter because two parallel societies have in effect solidified?
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I believe it is two parallel societies. We live in Coastal California where people are overwhelmingly Harris, but go inland an hour or so and things change completely. The urban and the rural, the educated and those without much education. I think it’s very geographic; even in states that always voted Republican, there is an urban outpost that doesn’t. Vice versa in Democratic states - the rural always votes Republican. It’s dangerous - especially since they have all the guns… I can’t think of a shared value anymore that people universally rally around.
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